An Interview with Laurie Conrad by Diana Souza.
Q: Laurie, talk to us about the importance of making dreams as significant to us as the events in our waking lives.
A: Well, I don’t know if I would really agree with that. I think there are certain experiences that we can have while we are in dream state that are true experiences, and some ทำนายฝัน of them are even mystical experiences – but I wouldn’t say that is true of all our dream-state experience.
Some dreams are more than ordinary dreams. And these I would say can be as, or even more valuable than our ordinary waking state experience.
What I would call ordinary or psychological dreams are more personal, individual experience. We are normally not in a shared consciousness for our dreams. Waking state consciousness is a shared experience – & for that reason, in my view, more valuable than an ordinary dream. This shared, material reality that we live in is given to us by the Divine – that is why we all perceive the same world around us. And this shared reality follows certain laws – for instance the sun rises & sets. Trees do not stand on one corner today and then move a few blocks north overnight. In our psychological dreams – our reality is personal, our own.
Basically: I think there are what I would call ordinary, psychological dreams, and then there are other experiences that we can have when asleep. In these times we can actually go to another realm or go to other places on this earth without our physical bodies being present. Saint Padre Pio would probably call it an extension of mind. I think many people have these experiences, they just are not aware of it. They think they had an ordinary run-of-the-mill, what I would call an ordinary psychological dream. But what might have happened, is that they actually went to another place on earth while in dream state. And if they ever later visit that town or building or street while in waking state reality, they will recognize the people and the buildings and streets and so on.
There are other experiences we can have while in this special consciousness when we are asleep. We can have visits from higher beings, divine beings, or people that we love that have died and left the earth. And these, in my mind, and in my experience, are true meetings.
There are certain qualities to these true experiences that we can have while in dream state, that seem to be true for everyone and for every experience. Many people have come to me with what they think are nightmares, and in my opinion they were actual visits to a lower realm. Others have had dreams in which someone they love who had died appeared to them in a dream and it comforted them. From how they described their dream, it was clear to me that they actually did meet with that person, it was not an ordinary dream. I tell people: If you are not clairvoyant, your loved ones who are now in other realms might visit you when you are in dream state. In my experience, some of those “dreams” feel more real than our experiences in waking state.
Q: Many of the psychological issues we are trying to unravel are probably pretty tangled up in the depths of our subconscious mind. They are very hard to reach with the rational, waking thought processes. Would you say that some of our dreams are possibly providing us with a shortcut to our subconscious?
A: Yes, I definitely would. And I think that aspect of dreams has been thoroughly explored by others far more trained in psychology than I: psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, dream workers and so on. Unraveling the subconscious is not the aim of my book. Others have done a far better job than I could ever do. So the aim of this book is not to discuss or analyze what I would call psychological dreams.
But yes, to answer your question, definitely. I think dreams always bring some kind of message to us, either from our own subconscious or some higher consciousness. Sometimes however, these so-called “dreams” are actual visits to other realms. Or actual messages from beings in other realms, for instance people that we love who have died. Some people might call them out-of-body dreams, but there are other sorts of dreams that come under that heading that most people have not examined. I might say we enter some aspect of clairvoyant consciousness for these sorts of dreams. And I think the messages are often very, very helpful, clarifying and important. And for many reasons.